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gabby

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Bankruptcy

Just received this fwarning from STC:

Dear Clients/ Partners,

We are writing you in regards of the latest announcement that the following property agencies “Red Hot Homes” and “Diamond Experience” and the connected with them World Legal Service have suffered bankrupt.

We would kindly ask you not to transfer any installments to their bank accounts, as they could not be processed to the developers any more.

We would recommend you to contact immediately your solicitors in order to get legal advice about the future procedure.

We trust, you will give this matter your immediate attention and take the necessary steps to avoid any inconveniences!

If the above-mentioned information does not concern your case, please feel free to delete this message from your mailbox!

Yours faithfully,

STC Building Group Ltd.

Bulgaria
 
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leon schillemore

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panorama casino and spa

Hello all, just flicked through all this info and am very glad I did. I have also bought in block c and just wondered if anyone had any new info.
I'm pretty new to all this and must admit that so far its not been to plesant an experiance.
I'm going out on the 27th feb to see whats going on but I to have not made the final payment and have no intention of doing so until its fully complete I have also held back with the money for the furniture pack.

All the best leon
 
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gabby

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Hello all, just flicked through all this info and am very glad I did. I have also bought in block c and just wondered if anyone had any new info.
I'm pretty new to all this and must admit that so far its not been to plesant an experiance.
I'm going out on the 27th feb to see whats going on but I to have not made the final payment and have no intention of doing so until its fully complete I have also held back with the money for the furniture pack.

All the best leon
Hi Leon - you are right it has bene an awful experience really. I have found myself chasing people who are being paid! I have no real info but go into talk Bansko - it seems though that we are all really in the dark. Unfortunately I have paid all of the money.

Best wishes,

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guybuy1

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Penalties for late completion of blocks A & B

Hi, has anyone bought in Panorama Casino & Spa in Bansko? There are delays in completion of blocks A & B & also some of the surrounding areas. Any info please? Thanks a lot
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Has anyone pushed for penalties to be paid? I was only informed by my lawyer (Vladimir Ivanov) on 4 March that the Act 15 had been issued for Block B (and this was only after I had chased him). But he advised that I should not complete as the developer had not yet connected the site to electricity and water and needed more money before it could do so. I have suggested to him that the developer should pay the contractual penalty, which by March had reached the maximum 10% value of the property, and was thus equal to my final instalment. As such I am unwilling to pay any more money. Has anyone else taken this line?

Vladimir simply said that the developer was unwilling to pay penalties, but he gave no contractual reasons for this. I have little confidence in him. Would any of you consider hiring a completely independent lawyer to pro-actively assert our rights and get the penalties paid? If he took action on behalf of a large number of clients we could all split the legal fees.

Guy
 
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gabby

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Talk Bansko

Hi Guy - a few of us are considering this - please go into user group on Talk Bansko website

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gabby

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By the way - have same lawyer and feel same way about him as you!
 
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Juliette

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Panorama

Hi, Can anyone elso buying in Panorama Casino in Bansko please advise me of their email address so that I can contact you out of the public domain, & also the email addresses of anyone else you have been in contact with? Thanks
 
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Tim Timovic

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Juliette,
You'll find quite a few Panorama buyers on the************** ******* site and reference to formation of an owners association.
 
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alisonburns

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Panorama Spa

I have loaded some pics on but can't paste the link into this blog for some reason. i'll get back to you on that.

Just had an email back from the lawyer to say that we are within our rights to withhold the final payment until act 16 has been served. I intend to visit again once they say it is finished but will request some up to date pics before I travel this time.

Incidentally, our contract states that we are also purchasing a percentage of the common areas. Surely then, it would need to be fully complete before the final payment is due. I have not heard anything about the mayor stopping all building. He has stopped approving any further plans as he feels the area is becoming overdeveloped. I have no doubt they will try and suggest some administration problems as this will negate a penalty. It would be interesting to see some documentary proof. While I was out in Bansko I spoke to another investor who said it is not unusual for a development to be late.
Hi Ollies Dad

we have also bought apartments in D bock in Panorama ad are refusing to pay our final balance until we see the images of our apartment and also the rooms. WE have been in discussion with the developer as our contract states Act 15 ad 16 needs to be issued by 30/10. Our contract also states if the work is not completed by then we are entitled to our money back.

I asked them for the name of their solicitor and they wouldn't give it to me. I have now discivered that they have Fidentia Group as their solicitor also and Raslita Galeva is their acting solicitor. I am very nervous about paying any money.

I assume we are all in the same boat at present. Do you know anyone who has completed. They are now asking for 90% of the final balance and the remaining 10% on completion.

At present the contract is not worth the paper its written on, not unless you prosecute them

WE are going to consult an independant British Lawyer. Do you know any who specialise in Bulgarian Law in the UK
 
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alisonburns

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Hi Ollies Dad

we have also bought apartments in D bock in Panorama ad are refusing to pay our final balance until we see the images of our apartment and also the rooms. WE have been in discussion with the developer as our contract states Act 15 ad 16 needs to be issued by 30/10. Our contract also states if the work is not completed by then we are entitled to our money back.

I asked them for the name of their solicitor and they wouldn't give it to me. I have now discivered that they have Fidentia Group as their solicitor also and Raslita Galeva is their acting solicitor. I am very nervous about paying any money.

I assume we are all in the same boat at present. Do you know anyone who has completed. They are now asking for 90% of the final balance and the remaining 10% on completion.

At present the contract is not worth the paper its written on, not unless you prosecute them

WE are going to consult an independant British Lawyer. Do you know any who specialise in Bulgarian Law in the UK
 
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gabby

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Residents' Association formed - Panorama Spa

A number of us (growing in number!) have set up a Residents ' Association for Panorama Spa and Casinao - we all have probems with this development and woudl like to remedy them. If you would like details of joining please contact me at :

[email protected]

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Jain and Chris

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Hi

If you would like to set up a separate thread on the totallyproperty site (without interference from agents) then just let me know... would be happy to do this (god forum willing!)

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gabby

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Hello Jain,

Thank you but another person is in the throes of setting one up. We will keep this in mind also. I MUST get my subscription sorted with the mag also.

Best wishes,

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Jon Whitmore

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Hi everyone,
I am new to this so go easy on me!!
I have purchased an apartment in Panorama Casino & Spa via Avatar International.
I paid 60% upfront, with 40% left to pay on completion.
I am nervous about progress, it seems very quiet. I am using VLADIMIR IVANOV at FIDENTIA GROUP (on the advice of Avatar!).
I am keen to be in contact with others in a similiar position.
Hopefully progress is now happening, I know they only work during the Summer months anyway, so I am now hoping this will be done for the end of this Summer ready for the Winter season.
I also asked penalties, which seem clear cut at 10% to me but worryingly got a "we'll see" type of response!
If there ends up being a need to appoint a new lawyer then I would be interested in being involved in this although at the moment I hope we aren't at that stage.
Does anyone have any clear information on when the development should now complete?
Jon Whitmore (07976 446767)
 
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Mirror

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David

Panorama casino

Hi Iam in the process of buying,

Please could someone help me with the following advice because iam a bit concerned too.
1) Final payments to send to AZ ASSet management in Budapest have you been told to send to the same address.
2) I read on someones blog to send money only when you receive act 15 & 16 is this correct. Many Thanks.
 
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